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Episode 61 – with Natural Dreamwork Practitioner Mary Jo Heyen

Mary Jo Heyen, M.Ed., is a Natural Dreamwork practitioner and meditation practitioner. A most precious and humble part of Mary Jo’s dream practice is as a hospice volunteer, a dream specialist, exploring the dreams and visions of those dying in hospice, their families and grief groups. In this episode we talk about her journey with dreams, dreams of the dying and the bereaved, the death of her father, a grief dream she had, and a dream she would like to have with her father. For more information on Mary Jo please visit